Boyles' guest Gheen called Mexicans who contend racism is driving U.S. immigration debate "brown Nazis"
On the October 9 broadcast of 630 KHOW-AM's The Peter Boyles Show, guest William Gheen, president of Americans for Legal Immigration (ALIPAC), responded to host Peter Boyles' criticism of Mexico's former President Vicente Fox -- who reportedly has asserted that the United States is letting racism shape its immigration policies -- by labeling as "brown Nazis" the Mexicans who make such arguments, later stating, "Americans are the Jews."
During his broadcast, Boyles referred to Fox's appearance on the October 8 edition of CNN's Larry King Live by saying that Fox did "exactly the same thing that these idiots are allowed to do in this country. He says it's the xenophobes, the racists, and those who feel that they are a superior race that are going to decide the future of the United States of America." Gheen responded by saying, "I'll take it further than that, Peter. Let me say somethin' about these brown Nazis, OK? They are equating a nation and a flag with a race that's not even technically a race." After Boyles said, "I agree," Gheen continued: "[T]he last time that that has really happened in modern history was Nazi Germany." After Boyles again agreed, Gheen added, "They equated the German homeland with a race of Aryan Caucasians, and that flag stood for 'the race.' " Gheen later claimed, "That's what these Mexicans are doing. And then they act so offended, saying, like, if you talk about Mexicans that's a new thing."
Contrary to Boyles' characterization of Fox's comments on Larry King Live -- which Boyles admitted he "didn't see" -- a transcript indicates that during the show Fox did not use the terms "xenophobes" or "racists." However, the Associated Press reported that in an October 8 interview with the news service, Fox said: "The xenophobics, the racists, those who feel they are a superior race ... they are deciding the future of this nation,'' but did not name anyone specifically.
As Colorado Media Matters has noted, during previous appearances on Boyles' show, Gheen has repeated anti-immigration falsehoods and claimed that "illegal aliens have shown a pattern of criminality" and that "when you put that on the backdrop of the resentment and the hate that many illegal aliens have for Americans, and ... the jealousy, the anger of what Americans have, and they don't have -- it creates a very unstable situation."
From the October 9 broadcast of 630 KHOW-AM's The Peter Boyles Show:
BOYLES: And also, I didn't see Larry King last night -- I have gone way past Larry King -- but apparently, Vicente Fox appears on Larry King, and he does exactly the same thing that these idiots are allowed to do in this country. He says it's the xenophobes, the racists, and those who feel that they are a superior race that are going to decide the future of the United States of America, letting racism dictate the policies of the United States of America. That could have been said by anybody in this country who can't discuss the argument. Who can't --
GHEEN: Oh, look, I'll take it further than that, Peter. Let me say somethin' about these brown Nazis, OK? They are equating a nation and a flag with a race that's not even technically a race.
BOYLES: I agree. I agree.
GHEEN: OK? And the last time that that has really happened in modern history was Nazi Germany.
BOYLES: I agree.
GHEEN: OK. They equated the German homeland with a race of Aryan Caucasians, and that flag stood for "the race." No one does that. The Canadian -- the maple leaf is not a -- you know, they, we don't do that with a maple, the Canadian flag, we don't do that with the American flag, we don't do that with the French flag, we don't do that with the British flag. It's rarely that you do that. That's what these Mexicans are doing. And then they act so offended, saying, like, if you talk about Mexicans that's a new thing. And I counted it. I was on CNN last night with The Rick Sanchez Show, and I enjoyed it, and I'm puttin' the video out today, 'cause I got a chance to get my message to the illegal aliens: Get out of my country -- now. Take a hint. Vamoose. I don't got to say, "Don't let the border gate hit you on the backside on the way out." And I mean it. I'm very serious about it. But the thing is, he tried the ploy with the, "Oh, I hear on talk radio all the time, these Mexicans are comin' in here." Like, as if we Americans talk about Mexicans --
BOYLES: No.
GHEEN: -- we're racists.
BOYLES: Well, no, but see that's the game that's now been played. It's been played here by elected officials, by columnists, by idiot on-airs, by so-called activists. They start using, "We're the new Jews, you're the Nazis." I mean, the rest of this nonsense. I --
GHEEN: But see, that stuff, that's -- Americans are the Jews.
BOYLES: But William -- but Bill, that's -- right, of course. But, see, not how it's, the victimization of the illegal. And I have, always have one question, which is never answered: When did illegal become a race?
—C.H.
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I believe that simplistic Nazi comparisons cheapen the actual atrocities that occurred during the reign of the 3rd Reich, and that Peter's guest, Gheen, was wrong in making such a asinine moral equivocation. It is also obvious that Media Matters is knit picking at this point. Those of us who are opposed to illegal immigration are constantly thrown into the same boat as racists and xenophobes, and quite frankly I am sick of it. Peter's last question up above says it all. And I quote, "When did illegal become a race?"
Why is it "knit" picking (it's "nit", by the way) to point out that both Boyles and his guest are insane idiots that will make ANY insane Nazi reference when it suits them?
Perhaps you need to read the mission statement of MM.
But you're right, those inane, ridiculous comparisons cheapen and lessen history.
It's very sad that Boyles and his ilk continue to use Nazi references to slam anything they don't like or agree with, when they clearly have no idea what the Nazis were all about, considering the agendas they support. It's merely convenient artifice for them, a bomb to drop when you really wanna "make your point" to the uninformed that listen to him.
Nazis = BAD- everyone understands this, therefore it's very convenient for them to compare anything they don't like, to Nazis.
This of course is lazy, immoral, and deceitful. In other words, the right-wing media.
Agreed... ANY person trying to debate American domestic issues while invoking a Nazi comparison (like Cal Thomas does ALL THE TIME) to one side is a fear-mongering tool...
Pardon my misspelling. I actually thought the term nitpicking was referenced from old knitting terminology, not louse picking.
Anyways, I've read MM's mission statement thoroughly and I've noted that it says they are, "dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the Colorado media." Now, I find it interesting that MM even takes the time to analyze Boyles. Peter Boyles isn't even a conservative. He is pro labor, pro gay rights, and subscribes to some protectionist ideologies. He is a self described independent who also hates Bush.
Now, like I said, I find offhand Nazi comparisons to be appalling, but my problem with MM is that they tend to call anything they don't agree with misinformation. OK, MM doesn't think Boyles should compare Mexican policies to Nazism. Neither do I. But that is Boyles and his guest's opinion, and it is fully within their prerogative to express it. Their opinion is not right, and its not wrong. Its a subjective analysis of the situation. To call someones opinion that you disagree with misinformation is misinformation in itself.BAKEACAKE says Boyle's and Gheen's foolish commentary is "subjective analysis"? Such hateful labels as "anchor babies" (a label Boyles has used in the past) and "brown nazis" speak for themselves and the idiots who make them. So what if your opposed to "illegal immigration" CAKE. CMM is not nit picking when it comes to Boyles, Caplis, Rosen, Caldara, and their ilk. CMM exposes hack radio for what it is, racist innuendo and right wing distortion.
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