Rosen asserted nobody has successfully challenged Patriot Act elements in court, ignoring ruling the previous week
Summary: Newsradio 850 KOA host Mike Rosen claimed on his September 12 broadcast that "where somebody thinks one element of the Patriot Act is a violation of the Constitution, their remedy is to go to court and challenge the constitutionality of it. That hasn't happened yet, at least not successfully." In fact, a federal judge struck down a key provision of the revised Patriot Act on September 6, ruling that it violated the Constitution's "separation of powers" principle and the First Amendment.
During his September 12 Newsradio 850 KOA show, Mike Rosen falsely asserted that the "constitutionality" of elements of the USA Patriot Act have "not successfully" been challenged in court. Rosen omitted the fact that a federal judge on September 6 struck down a key provision of the Patriot Act, ruling that the provision violated the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution and the Constitution's "separation of powers" principle.
As the Associated Press reported in a September 6 article posted on The Denver Post's website, "A federal judge struck down a key part of the USA Patriot Act on Thursday in a ruling that defended the need for judicial oversight of laws," and "handed the American Civil Liberties Union [ACLU] a major victory in its challenge of the post-Sept. 11 law that gave broader investigative powers to law enforcement." According to a September 6 ACLU press release, the national security letter (NSL) provision of the amended Patriot Act that gave the FBI the power to "gag those who receive NSLs from discussing them" was found unconstitutional. The release also stated "that because the statute prevented courts from engaging in meaningful judicial review of gags, it violated the First Amendment and the principle of separation of powers."
Rosen was addressing a caller who inquired about "why people believe" the Patriot Act violates "our constitutional rights."
From the September 12 broadcast of Newsradio 850 KOA's The Mike Rosen Show:
ROSEN: Let's go to Littleton. [Caller], you are on Newsradio 850 KOA. Hello, [caller].
CALLER: How are you? Good morning, Mike.
ROSEN: Morning.
CALLER: I've listened to you for a long time and I've always wanted to call in and debate you sometime if I could ever come up with an issue that A) I disagree with you on, and B) I could make an intelligent argument. But since you're having open lines I thought I'd call in. And I've got a question that has bugged me for a long time. And it deals with the Patriot Act and where the concern is relative to our constitutional rights and why people believe that it does violate them. And, you know, just a general discussion on that, if I could.
ROSEN: Well, in any specific area where somebody thinks one element of the Patriot Act is a violation of the Constitution, their remedy is to go to court and challenge the constitutionality of it. That hasn't happened yet, at least not successfully.
Reporting on the ACLU's lawsuit, however, the AP noted that in striking down the NSL provision of the Patriot Act, U.S. District Judge Victor Marrero "said the Constitution was designed so that the dangers of any given moment could never justify discarding fundamental individual liberties." According to the AP:
The ACLU had challenged the law on behalf of an Internet service provider, complaining that the law allowed the FBI to demand records without the kind of court supervision required for other government searches. Under the law, investigators can issue so-called national security letters to entities like Internet service providers and phone companies and demand customers' phone and Internet records.
In his ruling, Marrero said much more was at stake than questions about the national security letters.
He said Congress, in the original USA Patriot Act and less so in a 2005 revision, had essentially tried to legislate how the judiciary must review challenges to the law. If done to other bills, they ultimately could all "be styled to make the validation of the law foolproof."
Noting that the courthouse where he resides is several blocks from the fallen World Trade Center, the judge said the Constitution was designed so that the dangers of any given moment could never justify discarding fundamental individual liberties.
He said when "the judiciary lowers its guard on the Constitution, it opens the door to far-reaching invasions of liberty."
The AP further noted, "Marrero's lengthy judicial opinion, akin to an eighth-grade civics lesson, described why the framers of the Constitution created three separate but equal branches of government and delegated to the judiciary to say what the law is and to protect the Constitution and the rights it gives citizens."
A September 7 article about the ruling in the Los Angeles Times similarly reported, "In his ruling, Marrero said the gag order on letter recipients violated the 1st Amendment. He also ruled that the process for issuing the letters undercut the role of the courts, in violation of the principle of separation of powers under the Constitution." The Times also reported:
The ruling suggests that despite Congress' attempts to put the Patriot Act on firmer constitutional ground, it still faces significant legal challenges. If upheld on appeal, Marrero's decision could mean major new oversight of the FBI's use of a controversial investigative technique.
In the six years since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, the bureau has issued thousands of national security letters to build counter-terrorism and counterintelligence cases. The letters have become a popular tool at the bureau because they do not require court approval, and recipients have been prohibited from telling customers that their data have been requested by authorities.
In its press release, the ACLU noted that "[t]he law has permitted the FBI to issue NSLs demanding private information about people within the United States without court approval, and to gag those who receive NSLs from discussing them. The court found that the gag power was unconstitutional and that because the statute prevented courts from engaging in meaningful judicial review of gags, it violated the First Amendment and the principle of separation of powers." The press release added:
U.S. District Court Judge Victor Marrero wrote, "In light of the seriousness of the potential intrusion into the individual's personal affairs and the significant possibility of a chilling effect on speech and association -- particularly of expression that is critical of the government or its policies -- a compelling need exists to ensure that the use of NSLs is subject to the safeguards of public accountability, checks and balances, and separation of powers that our Constitution prescribes.
The AP article reported that Marrero "immediately stayed the effect of his ruling, allowing the government time to appeal. Justice Department spokesman Dean Boyd said: 'We are reviewing the decision and considering our options at this time.' "
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Gosh, is this gnat still around ? still on the air ? still makin' stuff up ?
all Mike's lies are principled.
If you watched John Dean on Bloomberg the other night, he painted a frightening picture of Cheney and Bush. He has a book out "Broken Government: How Republicans destroyed the Executive, Legislative and Judicial Branches of government". He made the following assertions (A) Cheney poured through the entire government and appointed his operatives across America to do his bidding furtively, placing key people in Federal Service posts who would spy on their organization's members to ensure Cheney's policies were adhered to. Those people will sit in the federal government for very long periods, even after Cheney and Bush are gone, doing the bidding of the same flawed "Unitary Executive" policy that Cheney espouses for his underling, George Bush. Dean made the point that Cheney does indeed, in many cases run the show. (B) George Bush followed suit in the Judicial branch with the culling of opponents to his policies, principally among them the attorney group whose dismissals are now being investigated for impropiety. In this manner, Bush and Cheney Usurped the second branch of government as their own. (C) The utilization of 911 was necessary to effect the dissolution of the Legislative branch of government, with the politics of fear being utilized to instigate the illegal eavesdropping on all of America, the seizure of personal data on all of America to their furtive ends, and the utilization of that data to demonstrate what exactly "New World Order" meant in terms of it's effect on our institutions, legal precedent, and rule-making bodies. Finally, and this is my conclusion, not Dean's, there is now a sufficient body of evidence available to posit the postulation that 911 was an internal construct, that the Trade Towers, as well as building 7, were all rigged in advance for the process of being "Razed" by implosion. Further, the silencing of the members of the National Institute of Standards and Technology, which I am formerly part of, is allegorical evidence of what one congressman called "a monstrous conspiracy" within the government. The 911 commission report, Like the Warren Commission, was both undermined and then utilized to their ends. They arrived at a preset conclusion, proscribed by the persons who placed them there to do their bidding, and then recommended a group of illegal changes to our government that would further assist the New World Order in consolidating control. Principly among those recommendations was the elimination of the wall between the Department of Defense and Civilian law enforcement agencies, arguing, incorrectly, that had we allowed DOD to share with local law enforcement agencies 911 could have been prevented or at least detected. It is now known what is intended with sharing DOD assets with local police departments, and the arresteds involved are taking legal action against Bush and Cheney. It is also known that Agent Crowley was rebuffed repeatedly by her superiors (once again the danger of Cheney appointing his minions across the Federal Service demonstrates itself) when alerting the FBI to an imminent attack. Further, the prohibition, now struck down by the courts, on revealing a Patriot Act Secret search by Gag order, has been now tossed by the courts. And as such, what is now to preclude Congress from mandating the disclosure to the target of EVERY search wherein a gag order was utilized when and for what purpose they were targeted. I would hate to think that hundreds of thousands of Americans personal viewing habits were searched so as to find out if they were recording on 911, and that those recording devices were "cleaned" like my tapes at my house were so as to prevent a reconstruct of the actual timeline of 911. Remembering that it was a Foreign news service which pointed out that Britain's BBC reported on Bldg 7 collapsing seven minutes before it occurred, with building 7 clearly visible while the female reporter was saying the words. A MONSTROUS CONSPIRACY, AND A PLAY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT from WITHIN OUR GOVERNMENT, by a group of men WITH OTHER DESIGNS FOR OUR GOVERNMENT. THIS IS A GRAVE MATTER, KILLING AMERICANS FOR SUBVERSIVE CAUSE.
Brothers unite!!!TATER. While I tend to balk at your Trade Center "rigged implosion" idea, nothing would surprise me concerning this administration's secretive conniving to violate our Constitution and usurp the powers of the legislative and judicial branches of our government. I will be relieved when this group leaves the presidency and now think the majority of Americans recognize the failure and attempts of Bush Cheney to lie and cheat their way to power. No president is bigger than the Republic or above the Constitution. Mr. Bush has failed us and in the months to come he will be witness to his own political destruction and the ruination of his Republican party. It can't come soon enough for me.
Rosen has quite the short memory, doesn't he?
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