Rosen's review of Sicko: "If you admire propaganda of the Goebbels variety ... then this ... is well-done propaganda"
Summary: Discussing Michael Moore's film Sicko with his guest, right-wing author and activist David Horowitz, Newsradio 850 KOA's Mike Rosen on his July 17 broadcast asserted that "this is well-done propaganda" and asked, "[W]ould [German filmmaker] Leni Riefenstahl be proud of this film?" Rosen's remarks echoed those of other conservative radio hosts who have equated progressive documentaries with Nazi propaganda.
On the July 17 broadcast of his Newsradio 850 KOA show, host Mike Rosen likened Michael Moore's documentary Sicko, about the U.S. health care system, to Nazi propaganda, asserting, "If you admire propaganda of the Goebbels variety, of the Riefenstahl variety, then this ... is well-done propaganda, as long as we recognize it as that." Later in the broadcast he asked guest David Horowitz, "[W]ould Leni Riefenstahl be proud of this film?"
From the July 17 broadcast of Newsradio 850 KOA's The Mike Rosen Show:
ROSEN: We already have scheduled to start off the program this morning a critique of Michael Moore's latest agitprop film, Sicko.
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ROSEN: If you admire propaganda of the Goebbels variety, of the Riefenstahl variety, then this is, this, this is well-done propaganda, as long as we recognize it as that. I imagine a lot of people however, who will take this film to heart, won't recognize it as propaganda.
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HOROWITZ: Morning, Mike. Thank you for making me sit through a two-and-a-half-hour communist propaganda film --
ROSEN: By the way, let me --
HOROWITZ: -- vintage 1930s. I mean, this, this, this film is totalitarian in its method and in its message. I -- I actually -- I am grateful, 'cause I would not have believed that such crude, communist claptrap, where the lies are, you know, painted across the screen all the time. You, you know you're only getting one side of the story. For example, you see that when he goes to the health care systems he loves in France and England, he interviews white, middle-class people. You wouldn't know that there are millions of, of Muslims rioting in the streets in France, burning cars and so forth. Only the upper-middle class gets interviewed. When he, when he's in America, it's union members, you know, working-class people, inner-city blacks, and he actually has one skid row patient. So, so America is seen right up from skid row, whereas when you go to England, you're talking to people who live in $200,000 -- or make $200,000 a year.
ROSEN: When you, when you say propaganda, would Leni Riefenstahl be proud of this film?
HOROWITZ: Yeah -- well, you know, I didn't want to load the, stack the cards too, too heavily by saying, "Sure, Nazi propaganda is the same thing."
Rosen's comments referenced Joseph Goebbels, Nazi Germany's propaganda minister, and Leni Riefenstahl, director of the 1935 Nazi propaganda film Triumph of the Will -- and continued a pattern whereby right-wing radio hosts have likened progressive documentaries to Nazi propaganda. For example, on the March 22 broadcast of his Fox News Radio 600 KCOL Ride Home with The James Gang show, host and KCOL program director Scott James likened former Vice President Al Gore's self-described "mass persuasion campaign" on global warming to Nazi propaganda efforts.
Other conservative critics of the Gore documentary An Inconvenient Truth have used similar rhetoric in an attempt to discredit the film, as Media Matters for America has documented. For example, CNN Headline News host Glenn Beck on his April 30 nationally syndicated radio show said that Gore is using "the same tactic" to fight global warming that Adolf Hitler used to vilify Jews in Nazi Germany. On June 7, 2006, Beck compared Gore's campaign to raise awareness of global warming to the Nazis, dismissing many of the film's conclusions and stating, "It's like Hitler." Sterling Burnett, senior fellow at the National Center for Policy Analysis, on the May 23, 2006, edition of Fox News' Dayside called the film "propaganda" and added, "You don't go see Joseph Goebbels' films to see the truth about Nazi Germany. You don't want to go see Al Gore's film to see the truth about global warming."
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you'll note that nowhere in any of these "critiques" do they actually identify any of the subject matter that either mr. moore or mr. gore have been proven wrong on, distorted the facts or, as they consistently claim, lied about. there are no specics given as proof, to support the allegation of moore and gore as "propagandists".
rather, it is critique by pejorative: messrs. moore and gore are annoying people, i don't like what they have to say, therefore it is wrong. oh, and they're fat, and their house uses a lot of energy. they are hypocrites to boot.
just another substanceless attack by the wingnut noise machine.
The reason that morons like Mike Rosen don't identify specific things in Moore's or Gore's films that are incorrect is simple:
THERE ARE NONE!!!
Don't confuse, crosstalk & propagandize!!.. The issue is simple..
Erm, basically, we don't want "socialized" fire,police, social security, postal etc? This will lead us to become commies? Are we?
So, we don't want to maybe pay higher taxes of perhaps 10~20% more, but willing to pay another form of "taxes" in the form of premium, copay etc.
So we don't want to give our money to Uncle SAM, but we're willing to give them to few greedy CEOs which make billions each year.
In fact paying to Uncle SAM will have minimum adminstrations cost or overhead maybe 2~5%? as oppose the premiums, copays etc for 30% adminstrations cost overhead etc where 29.9% goes to profit etc and 0.1 % to actually use for our health and deny us with pre-existing condition, experimentals, etc
So, when seeing doctors, we want our doctors to check with some guy sitting in a cubicle somewhere far away whether we "AFFORD" and fight for maybe 15 dollars over the phone for a lousy/simple treatment payment....at least with uncle SAM...we're confident uncle SAM they write their cheques RIGHT ON time deliver to you using our socialized postal.
You can find the money to kill people, you can find money to help people.
They're in this business to give less CARE to you to make MORE profits? Isn't the notion of that idea OBSCENE!!!
What drugs cost 5 cent in CUBA cost 120 dollars here? They're only cost 6.69 pound or 10 dollars in UK....all time, standard. Yep, you've paid in "premiums" (in the form of tax) to Uncle SAM.
1. No middle man...why need a middle men in between your health? You, your doctor and good ol Uncle SAM or Greedy Bastard CEOS with 7 cars(exclusive clubs etc)..Your choice.
2. Regulate the hell out of those pharmies!!! the cost is up our NOSE...5 cents in Cuba? 10 dollars in UK?
3. Doctor who really CARE for you, and want to treat YOU of your disease..as oppose to milk you all you can afford
4. Ration...ration base on health need? or ration based on HOW MUCH YOU CAN AFFORD TO PAY!!!!
5. Willing to wait a little...maybe longer or SHORTER....we're only ahead on Canada. Btw, we're 5th in the waiting game....yes Canada is 6th...so a little longer. But hey, who's NO 1??? yes...another country with commies health care..
Whatever "facts-checking" by Sanjay GUPPTAAAA, the complicit ad funded "mainstream" media, bought for policticans...lousy asshole government that we have now, want to brainwash us or propagandized stupid, incredible STUPID FACTS!!!! about how great privatised medcine is??? We can RIP IT APART!!! Medicine is a RIGHT!!!! it is our RIGHT!!!!
The point is, it is easier to govern people who are demoralize, in debt, and sickness and bickering at each other(the "ol divide & conquer)...over healthy, educated & confident & UNITED (republicans & democrats) AMERICAN people.
That's the power of democracy!! We take the power from the wallet to the people!!!
David Horowitz used to be pretty good, when he was a consumer advocate back in the '70s. Then apparantly his brain exploded, and he became a raving lunatic right-winger....
Rosen has been baiting "stupid white boys" for years. He's making big money to lie, cheat, and mislead. Ditto Limbaugh and his ilk. The stupid white boys deserve them.
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