Boyles guest Corsi: "No bilingual nation has ever survived in the history of the world"
Summary: During an appearance on Peter Boyles' 630 KHOW-AM show, right-wing author Jerome Corsi contended that bilingual nations have been doomed to failure throughout the course of history. In fact, numerous countries currently have more than one official language.
On the February 13 broadcast of 630 KHOW-AM's The Peter Boyles Show, guest Jerome Corsi -- in addition to making ethnic slurs about Mexicans and Mexican-Americans -- erroneously claimed that "[n]o bilingual nation has ever survived in the history of the world." In fact, several countries -- including Canada, Ireland, Switzerland, and India -- have more than one official language.
Corsi's falsehood about bilingual nations was prompted by Boyles' comment that he got his "Dex" telephone directory "in Español." Corsi replied:
Well, you know, it's shocking what they're doing in this. I mean, pretty soon if anybody wants to teach in the public schools, you're going to have to go take, get Spanish. You're going to have to learn Spanish. All the signs are going to be in Spanish. You're going to have Americans prosecuted for violating somebody's civil rights because they refuse to speak Spanish to them. No bilingual nation has ever survived in the history of the world.
Boyles did not ask Corsi to provide a single example of a bilingual nation that failed, and according to the U.S. State Department, a number of nations currently have more than one official language, including:
- Switzerland: "Switzerland has four official languages - -German, French, Italian, and Romansch (based on Latin and spoken by a small minority in the Canton Graubunden)."
- Ireland: "English is the common language, but Irish (Gaelic) is also an official language and is taught in schools."
- India: "The government has recognized 18 official languages; Hindi, the national language, is the most widely spoken, although English is a national lingua franca."
- Peru: "Spanish is the principal language. Quechua, Aymara and other indigenous languages also have official status."
- Finland: "Finnish 91.6%, Swedish 5.5% (both official). ... Few tensions exist between the Finnish-speaking majority and the Swedish-speaking minority."
- Singapore: "Malay is the national language, but Chinese, English, and Tamil also are official languages."
Moreover, according to the Public Service Human Resources Management Agency of Canada's Official Languages Branch (OLB) website, "September 2004 marked the 35th anniversary of the coming into force of the first [Canadian Official Languages] Act" naming French and English as Canada's official languages. According to the OLB, "The Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms (the Charter) ... states that 'English and French are the official languages of Canada and have equality of status and equal rights and privileges as to their use in all institutions of the Parliament and government of Canada.' " The OLB also notes that the Charter states:
Any member of the public in Canada has the right to communicate with, and to receive available services from, any head or central office of an institution of the Parliament or government of Canada in English or French, and has the same right with respect to any other office of any such institution where a) there is a significant demand for communications with and services from that office in such language; or b) due to the nature of the office, it is reasonable that communications with and services from that office be available in both English and French.
Corsi, co-author of Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak Out Against John Kerry (Regnery Publishing Inc., 2004), made his comments during a discussion about Bank of America's decision to "quietly" offer "credit cards to customers without Social Security numbers -- typically illegal immigrants," according to a February 13 Wall Street Journal article (accessed through the newspaper's electronic edition). Boyles suggested Bank of America's policy was another example of a two-tiered system: "I say this all the time, there's the tier that the U.S. citizen stands on, and there's the tier that the illegal stands on. And the treatment is always afforded the illegal."
Of Bank of America's policy, Corsi said, "[I]f you're speaking Spanish, you come in with a sombrero, and you got the bags and, you know, bean bags, they're just going to say, 'Oh come on, well, there's a special line for you over here.' "
From the February 13 broadcast of 630 KHOW-AM's The Peter Boyles Show:
CORSI: When we integrate with Mexico --
BOYLES: Yeah.
CORSI: -- I guess we might as well just get ready for the drug cartels to move in and, and the -- and Bank of America'll be happy to move their money around too.
BOYLES: Well certainly when they used to catch the Florida banks. I have a friend who was a writer, lives in Florida, and he said the guessing game back in the seventies and eighties was to drive the causeways in Florida and guess which banks were owned by which cocaine cartels. And -- although I'm a fan of the movie Scarface, which is, you know, obviously what it means. But that whole production when he's dealing with the bankers in Miami. I mean, these guys will look the other way. They have in the past.
CORSI: Right, but, you know, if you as an American citizen, Peter, go into that bank and, you know, you try to deposit two or three --
BOYLES: Oh. Oh.
CORSI: -- deposits of five thousand dollars in cash --
BOYLES: They run you.
CORSI: -- you're going to be hauled into federal --
BOYLES: Sure.
CORSI: -- investigators and talking to you. What are you doing?
BOYLES: Yeah, they run you.
CORSI: Yeah, but if you -- if you're speaking Spanish, you come in with a sombrero, and you got the bags and, you know, bean bags, they're just going to say, "Oh come on, well, there's a special line for you over here."
BOYLES: And that's --
CORSI: It's insane. It's just insane.
BOYLES: Oh no, it's insanity. And, like I said, it's -- if you don't think there's two, there's two tiers -- I say this all the time, there's the tier that the U.S. citizen stands on, and there's the tier that the illegal stands on. And the treatment is always afforded the illegal.
CORSI: And the short end of the stick is given to the American citizen, over --
BOYLES: Oh, without a doubt.
CORSI: -- and over and over again.
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BOYLES: I have in front of me, as do many of the morning show 630 KHOW listeners and callers, I got my Dex in Español.
CORSI: OK. Well, you know, it's shocking what they're doing in this. I mean, pretty soon if anybody wants to teach in the public schools, you're going to have to go take, get Spanish. You're going to have to learn Spanish. All the signs are going to be in Spanish. You're going to have Americans prosecuted for violating somebody's civil rights because they refuse to speak Spanish to them. No bilingual nation has ever survived in the history of the world. And always before, including the Italian and Irish and all the other immigrants who came here -- you know, in the early part of the 1900s and through the 20th century -- they were resolved to become Americans. My father came -- was born of two Italian immigrants. My father did not learn to speak Italian. I learned to speak Italian. My father didn't because he was discouraged. To become an American, my Italian grandparents did not want my dad speaking Italian. They wanted him speaking English. Now -- now today, it's completely reversed. We all have to speak Spanish because, you know, the illegal immigrants from Mexico speak Spanish. Well, that's totally backwards.
—T.S.P.
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...and don't forget Belgum, Flemings and Walloons. These fellas seem well-matched, barroom pontificaters, except Corsi talks like he's still shilling for Nixon.
Most amusing. There are other examples. The Philippines comes to mind, as does the Tirolean area of Northern Italy. The USA is unusual in our insistence on one language and our laziness about learning another. As a matter of fact. German was once proposed as the national language.
What's so great about English? It's okay, it's ours, it has lots and lots of words. I love it. But remember when the English made it a crime for the Irish to speak Irish, and forced them to speak English? I think that everyone in the USA should now speak Irish. People are so bored they watch reality tv shows. Let's give ourselves something to do with our brains: make Spanish and Irish the two American languages and get rid of that Tory influence once and for all. And throw in Ebonics as an official dialect.
This is just fear of change. We're lucky that it's Spanish we have to accept--the easiest one on the planet, and perhaps the prettiest.
In Corsi's case, as in Tancredo's, it amazes me how people whose names end in vowels are such staunch supporters of an all English society...no spicka da Italiano any more?
and don't forget Belgum, Flemings and Walloons. These fellas seem well-matched, barroom pontificaters, except Corsi talks like he's still shilling for Nixon.
LOL, the largest political party in Belgium, Vlams Belang, is a Flemish separatist movement. Flemish separatism is growing in Belgium by leaps and bounds. I guess you are a bit behind the news.
Most amusing. There are other examples. The Philippines comes to mind, as does the Tirolean area of Northern Italy
Yes, and the Philippines is one of the poorest and most backward countries in the world. It is also beset with separatist movements, some of them violent. So is India -- in spades. India has multiple separatist movements, some of them extremely violent. Bombs go off in India on a monthly basis. An example we should look up to as a role model? Canada's separatism problems with Quebec are well-known. In fact if you look at many of these so-called "successful" bilingual nations, you will quickly uncover separatist movements -- we have them in the US too, amongst the Spanish-speakers. Italy has had 100 different governments since the end of WWII. A role model we should all look up to?
I think that everyone in the USA should now speak Irish. People are so bored they watch reality tv shows. Let's give ourselves something to do with our brains: make Spanish and Irish the two American languages and get rid of that Tory influence once and for all. And throw in Ebonics as an official dialect.
This is just fear of change. We're lucky that it's Spanish we have to accept--the easiest one on the planet, and perhaps the prettiest
Yes, let's just get rid of our whole historical national and cultural identity. Let's just throw it out the door, because we are bored. If we happen to end up as a poorer, more violent, less united nation, a nation on the brink of a civil war as a result, who cares? The "diversity" god must be appeased at all costs, even at the expense of our national, historical language! Who needs Mark Twain, Tennessee Williams, Moby Dick, The Great Gatsby, Johnny B. Goode anyways? Let's destroy, destroy, destroy our entire cultural heritage and adopt a new one because we're "bored."
Corsi is 100 percent correct. Our unifying national language makes us strong. Language is a binder of communities. Bilingualism makes us divided and weak. Parallel societies fracture and eventually split.
Thank you for the history lesson MISSJESSEL. I learned something new today. Lets not forget examples in our own country as well. Despite how he's villified for saying it, Tancredo's statements concerning Miami being like a third-world country are completely true! There are entire sections of the city that don't use the english language or american currency for that matter. What is the result?
Does this sound harmonious to anyone here? A formula for "bilingual survival?"
"Spicka" What the hell is that? Never let the facts or history get in the way of a good bash, eh NEOCONBASHER? Just because someone's name ends in a vowel dosen't mean they have to fit into your formula. They might have independent, rational thoughts.
And why can't those immigrants (legal or not) learn to "accept" english, when they come here ROYCEBO? I will not be accepting spanish as a national language, and not because I fear change.
Thank you, thank you, more focus, more clarity. Let's hope the barroom barristers read these comments. How about Greek and Latin for 500 or more years in Roman times?
Bilingual nations can only succeed when there exists a cultural compatability between the linguistic groups.
All examples of "successful" bilingual nations given by the author have hitch to them.
Switzerland: The linguistic groups live in seperate parts of the country and for the most part do not interact with each other. Geneva is French, period. Zurich is German, period.
Ireland: Gaelic is the ancestral language of the Irish people. Recognizing Gaelic as an official language of Ireland is a recognition of the Irish people's own heritage. Gaelic IS Irish!
India: The 15 other languages mentioned after Hindi, are for all intent and purpose dialects of Hindi. Urdu (the official language of Pakistan) and Hindi are about as different as French and Quebecois, if even. English is an official lingua franca because of India's colonial past. One would be hard pressed to find two Hindus conversing in English as opposed to Hindi.
Canada: Bilingual nation? As a Canadian I find this insulting because it reflects how little people outside of Canada know the reality of this nation. A Vancouverite probably knows more Mandarin then French. Seperatist referendums have almost ended Canada's nationhood several times over.
Finland: Although Finnish and Swedish are quite distinct languages, Finnish and Swedish culture however are not. They are both Scandinavian cultures with more in common then not. (which is the key to a succesful bilingual nation)
Peru: same situation as in Ireland
Singapore: Police state. Disobey at your own risk.
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